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I doubt I will have much of a talk page, but hey, I suppose If you want to talk to me, This is the way to do it!

Just be sure to sign your comments, k? :D

Hi. --Aredmoon 13:27, 6 December 2010 (CST)

lol, what's goin on? ~ dkpat 20:33, 6 December 2010 (CST)

Template update problem[edit source]

I see you've updated several templates. While that's good and all, some of the background colors have changed, making some of the text completely unreadable! Black on black just doesn't work... HungryPaperweight 12:15, 27 January 2011 (CST)

It looks fine on my side, though. Oh, and I suggest updating the other templates (which I'm not really good at) like the Summons template when there's enough time...^_^ Vortex World 12:19, 27 January 2011 (CST)
Well, maybe your computer has more contrast, but I've tried two different computers and in both cases the text on the side is pretty much illegible. HungryPaperweight 12:32, 27 January 2011 (CST)
I honestly didn't change any colors. Really. I used the exact same colors as before.... what browser are you using/what version? Also, which one in particular/what spot..~ dkpat 18:02, 27 January 2011 (CST)
Browser? *Opens Firefox* Ahhh, I see. It only looks screwed up on Internet Explorer... Which is a whole other problem, because I doubt I'm the only one around who prefers Explorer (I honestly don't see why everyone disses it...) HungryPaperweight 20:47, 27 January 2011 (CST)
Why dis it? Things like this exactly... -sigh- I'll see what I can do ~ dkpat 21:22, 27 January 2011 (CST)
Umm.. I can't reproduce it with my IE.... please don't tell me you have IE6....(It is the bane of ever web designer in the world)~ dkpat 21:26, 27 January 2011 (CST)
I hate IE so much... Please tell me this one looks normal to you now Template:Items ~ dkpat 22:43, 27 January 2011 (CST)
Don't worry, it looks normal now. I still don't see why everyone hates Explorer, but, whatever. HungryPaperweight 23:04, 27 January 2011 (CST)
Everyone hates IE because it is the worst browser for web designers. It is not standards complaint, IT takes code and makes it do things completely different from every other browser/what it is supposed to do, and It has market share, so web designers are forced to design specifically for IE AND every other major browser. in this particular case, IE isn't accepting a short hand code for the Color. (It could be much worse)~ dkpat 23:10, 27 January 2011 (CST)
Sounds like one of those things you just have to experience to understand. Anyways, there's one other template that comes up as black (Only for the GS and TLA headings). I was going to fix it myself after seeing what you did, but that template uses different colors entirely and I don't know where to find a list of what to type to get certain colors... HungryPaperweight 10:34, 28 January 2011 (CST)
I got it fixed. Basically, Color codes can be shortened to 3 characters (sometimes.) In that template "#cfc" and "#ccf" which are changed to "#ccffcc" and "#ccccff", respectively. Thanks for the warning all the same!~ dkpat 17:40, 28 January 2011 (CST)

A suggestion[edit source]

Hey, I just remembered something. Now where was it... Ah! Here it is! I think this is supposed to be included in templates to quickly allow people to edit the template or visit its talk page. I don't know why it hasn't been included in other templates already, but since you're revamping templates all over the wiki, I thought maybe you'd want to know about this! HungryPaperweight 19:11, 30 January 2011 (CST)

heh... I'm personally against that. To me, it just kinda detracts from the template its self. Now, if someone else agrees that it should be implemented, then I'll go back and add it in to them. I'm not an overlord, lol, If i'm outnumbered I'll go with the majority :P ~ dkpat 19:14, 30 January 2011 (CST)
Meh, fair enough. I just wanted to make sure you knew about it. Personally, I find it to be fairly convenient, but that's just from an editor's perspective. From a visitor's perspective, though, I suppose it would be distracting. Plus, I'm not an expert with templates, so I'll trust your judgment on this one ;) HungryPaperweight 19:21, 30 January 2011 (CST)

Skin[edit source]

I come from the Kingdom Hearts Wiki that just moved off-wiki. Is there any way I/we can get a copy of the skin you made? We'd like something like that over there. If you could, please contact me here. Thanks! -- 22:09, 9 February 2011 (CST)

Alright, we've got Rounded Blue on our wiki. However, I would like to ask you some coding questions. We are in the process of customizing it to our liking, but I (as the leader behind all the css) have no idea how to change/access the Search Bar, Portlet/Navigation Bars, Add a link to the Main Page from the bg.jpg image, etc, etc. Is there anyway you could help or link to a page with this information? Thank you. --SilverCrono 00:56, 20 February 2011 (CST)

For the most part, this skin uses images for all the colors. the search buttons are images, as well as the top image, and all the rounded corners/content background. (so.. that is pretty much everything but text. lol) all the images titled "cs____.gif, fb____.gif, sb____.gif, and Sheet__.gif need to be changed to the colors you want your wiki to use.
If you want to get rid of the magnifying glass on the search, you could simply delete the files, but that wouldn't be the best solution. The best thing would be to open the css file and search for where it calls that file, and remove it.
To edit the portlets, that is a media wiki thing. Go to to edit that.
Hope I helped ~ dkpat 09:21, 20 February 2011 (CST)
Okay, a couple things. How does this wiki keep this the "Edit, +, history, move, etc" tabs inside the page? And I don't have access to MediaWiki folders, so... yeah. --SilverCrono 22:54, 20 February 2011 (CST)
even if you don't have access to media wiki, (in the end you will probably want to just for load time optimization) you still should open up the css file of the skin. the elements tend to be named at least somewhat explanatory. the edit buttons have css of... #p-cactions. open up that css file of the skin, and look for all of that. The very first declaration will have a position absolute (I think, could be something I did) Basically, what I did was simply push it down using "top:240px" though this may not work for you and does cause an error... I have fixed it before though.. i'll get back to you this afternoon with the real solution. ~ dkpat 06:22, 21 February 2011 (CST)
Whoo, thanks for that. I'll wait for your solution, but... (sorry for being a n00b here) how does one access the MediaWiki files? --SilverCrono 10:14, 21 February 2011 (CST)
Most simply, just download the skin for yourself. Open it up and look at the files. The CSS file has everything the skin uses (basically) for it to look how it does. Just open that file in notepad or something if nothing else. Now that solution.... ~ dkpat 17:39, 21 February 2011 (CST)

Golden sun wiki[edit source]

Hi, i have a question, you can add in the main page one link to my wiki of golden sun in spanish. golden sun wiki... 04:09, 13 February 2011 (CST)

IE Skin problems[edit source]

hey guys, while this isn't news or anything, the website only partially works in IE unfortunately. (sometimes... >_>) I've gotten so many mixed results using it myself that is is crazy, So I am asking for assistance in finding out what the issues actually are. Please post any problems that you experience in IE here, and if you want to take the time, Screenshot them. ~ dkpat 18:55, 21 June 2011 (CDT)

I can't provide screenshots right now (I might later), but I know that rounded edges on templates like Template:Axes don't show up on IE. They're still boxy. I would have mentioned it a long time ago, but I only noticed it shortly after the whole "can't use three-character color shortcuts" incident and I figured fixing the colors was enough for the time. The World's Hungriest Paperweight 21:06, 21 June 2011 (CDT)
quite frankly, that isn't possible in IE. In IE 9 it works but all older version of IE do not support rounded corners, there is no possible solution. (another reason to dislike IE) ~ dkpat 21:31, 21 June 2011 (CDT)
Oh well. There's bigger things to worry about. Moving on! ;) The World's Hungriest Paperweight 22:28, 21 June 2011 (CDT)

Image bit[edit source]

Incidentally, in regards to that licensing drop-down menu at the image uploading screen that only has "None selected" as the only option: Is there any way that a generic fairuse option can be added that would add ==Licensing== {{Fairuse}} to the page? It's not so much about making things convenient as it is about giving point to having that drop-down menu to begin with, and to basically get the "good" users of the wiki that are just starting out to be better able to find for themselves that they should have that fairuse thing put in for each image they upload. Erik the Appreciator 17:14, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

That's something I'm actually about to look into. I've only uploaded about 5 images, but that does bug me that it is there and has no use. ~ dkpat 17:34, 12 July 2011 (CDT)
Huh... That was a much easier fix than I expected, and now we have a wide variety. check it out. ~ dkpat 17:42, 12 July 2011 (CDT)

Math tags?[edit source]

Just thought I'd point this out to you: Talk:Summon#Formula Broken, since you seem to be the one that handles design/formatting/wikiextensions. (If you're not and I'm totally off base, I'm sorry. ^^;) Any way we can make those math tags work again? Thanks much. AlishaShatogi 14:08, 15 August 2011 (CDT)

yeah I knew that would be something I would have to look at when you posted it.. I had just forgotten about it. (and you have me pegged pretty much right btw) I'll take a look in a bit (I just got moved into my dorm as college freshman, soo... lol) ~ dkpat 18:30, 15 August 2011 (CDT)
done --Aredmoon 02:08, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
Oh good, Thanks so much Aredmoon! really hoped it wasn't going to be too bad. ~ dkpat 07:28, 17 August 2011 (CDT)

Help with a Skin[edit source]

Hello, I'm an admin from Nookipedia. I was wondering if you could do me a huge favor. I'm wanting to learn how to make a skin, for both Nookipedia and Metroid Wiki. I understand you designed GSU's skin as well as helped with NP's current skin(s), so you seem to be a very well-versed skin maker. If you could teach me how, or just help me by doing the coding while I do images, that would be awesome. Like to here back, thanks! ***Super!~Nickno 22:33, 27 December 2011 (CST)

Hey nick, I recognize you from the NIWA chat groups. Making a Wiki Skin is very much just web design. You need to learn HTML and CSS (particularly CSS) and PHP helps a lot too. It's best to start from an existing skin and start playing with the css files to change it up in slight ways, then slowly make larger changes. The vast majority of the skins I've made around NIWA are based on the Monobook Skin, believe it or not, NP included. I took Monobook and started to change it til I got what I wanted.
You should know that Designing a Skin and Making a skin are different things. Designing focuses on Photoshop work or GIMP, whatever image program you want to use to design a layout for the skin. I personally lack on design skills, But I am really good at actually making a skin. I can take a Photoshop file of a website or wiki skin and turn it into a working website, nearly regardless of the design. Both Nookipedia's and WikiBound's skins I created in this way. If you think you want to give a stab at actually making, let me know and I may be able to help you learn. ~ dkpat 02:30, 28 December 2011 (CST)
Well for now, I'd just rather design one first, and then learn to make the other one later. Let's do the Metroid Wiki one first. So, just give me some perimeters for the design, like width, height, or whatever else a design needs, and I will work on stuff. ***Super!~Nickno 18:03, 28 December 2011 (CST)
I'll contact you on Skype in a bit. We can talk from there. ~ dkpat 18:06, 28 December 2011 (CST)

Question about Japanese name[edit source]

Hi! I want to add Japanese name for articles, I think it might be useful. But I have a question

Like Dream Tree, the Japanese is "ユメの木". ユメ (YuMe) is transliteration from "Dream", "の" mean "xxx's xx", and "木" means tree. So it's literally as "Dream's tree", so it's Japanese name is identical with English name. Could I write J-name for these article? (I already saved ^ ^;) Or what kind of article not need J-name

Thank you!--铁铁的火大了 (Talk) 04:48, 26 March 2012 (CDT)

Yeah that is fine. A lot of other wikis do this as well, even if it is the exact same. So Don't worry about it. Thanks again! ~ dkpat 10:11, 26 March 2012 (CDT)

Thanks for fixing the bad code[edit source]

I'm still kinda new at Wikicode, so I tend to do things by imitation - thanks for fixing the bad coding on my user profile. By the way, I copied that from Erik, so... you might wanna check his too. Rolina 10:50, 26 July 2012 (CDT)

Thanks for the heads up, I went and checked but it wasn't causing any problems, and I checked the code on his page and it was right. Seems you just accidentally missed that part when copying it. No worries though. ~ dkpat 13:03, 26 July 2012 (CDT)

Spam pages[edit source]

Woah. That's heaps of spam pages around. It'll be a major hassle to delete and block each and everyone of them. They're even in the forum but I can't find any delete option on there. Chinkycandie (talk) 06:37, 30 September 2012 (CDT)

yeah... I've been looking into the ways the Wikipedia prevents spam and implementing some of them, while I disabled the built in function that requires an authenticated email address to edit, because it disallowed anon edits. I may just have to re-enable it though because this is ridiculous. ~ dkpat (talk) 09:23, 30 September 2012 (CDT)
Unfortunately, it looks like the spam pages are created on a daily basis :O Chinkycandie (talk) 22:06, 30 September 2012 (CDT)
One thing I have noticed though is that spam user registration has decreased, or seems to... maybe some of my anti spam has worked... Dealing with 1 new created spam page a day I can live with. ~ dkpat (talk) 07:52, 2 October 2012 (CDT)

Hello and Redirects[edit source]

Hello, you may know me as Secreteer. I may not be very active, because I have not played Golden Sun in quite some time, but I know quite a bit. But there is one thing I want to talk about. If you go to Special:AllPages, you can view all of the articles and redirects. May I suggest that we get rid of all unneeded redirects? You may have noticed that I have marked "PHAETON'S BLADE" and "Atropos' Staff" (not Atropos' Rod). We can just type "Atropos" into the search engine instead of "Atropos' Staff"; that is what the Search Engine is for. We do not need to do this over one night; we can do this over a small period of time. Since you are not doing much on the wiki anyways, when I am occasionally on, I can mark those unneeded redirects. So, what do you say? Fair deal? If I need a better explanation for this, I will explain. --Secreteer (talk) 17:54, 3 October 2012 (CDT)

I'm not sure I see why we should do this... Care to elaborate on your thinking? ~ dkpat (talk) 19:14, 3 October 2012 (CDT)
Trying to elaborate is a bit difficult for me, but very well. As you can see, many people would attempt to create redirects to attempt to help newcomers. However, most of these redirects that are not needed (I am not sure why "PHAETON'S BLADE" was created, though). For example, it appears that Erik created "Atropos' Staff" as a redirect. Why would anyone need that redirect, when you can easily type "Atropos" into the search engine and find the page you are looking for? Would we really need "Sol blade", "Sol Blaed", and "Sol Blead" as redirects? I am not suggesting that we delete every redirect, just those that really are not needed, like unneeded tags, misspellings, or lowercase redirects. --Secreteer (talk) 06:20, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
I think that there are some redirects that could be gotten rid of, (we do have quite a few, PHAETONS BLADE... really?) but I also think there are some misspellings and lowercase redirects that should stay. Sol blade I think should stay, for example. I don't tend to use the search's auto complete feature to get to a page I want quickly. I don't want to have to end up on the search page when I type "sol blade" and press enter. and of course, other redirects such as Golden Sun Universe:Administrators should obviously stay. ~ dkpat (talk) 08:05, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
It appears you are a bit more loose with things than I would. But at least know when unneeded is unneeded and not just to be extremely lazy with the search engine. --Secreteer (talk) 14:33, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
We can't predict what users of the wiki will search for, but we can try to make up for their mistakes. Some things are honest mistakes (like misspelling Judgment as Judgement ) others are simply not thinking about it and expecting that the wiki will know (lowercase). Though there are clearly some redirects that should never have existed (those Djinn redirects you're finding right now.... why makes those...?)~ dkpat (talk) 14:48, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
Also, the monster/enemy line redirects your finding right now, we recently changed convention from monster line to enemy line so, they were mostly overlooked. ~ dkpat (talk) 14:52, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
I understand that. I personally do not like the ideas of lowercases, but I will have to deal with it. I should ask though: are redirects like Salamander Staff (redirecting to Salamander Rod) really necessary? Since we seem to have a different point of view about redirects, I should let you make the decision about that. --Secreteer (talk) 14:55, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
...For that.... I would like to get Erik's opinion. He is the "primary" admin so I want his opinion on that matter. I'm not entirely sure if they should be kept or not.–The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dkpat
I think I can explain the Djinn redirects. They were used on bestiaries like Mogall Forest and Gabomba Statue. Like the "monster line" redirects, they were only recently taken out of use when the Djinn got their own enemy line pages. I suppose we could put them back into use by pointing them towards the enemy line articles rather than the individual Djinn articles, but I don't know if anyone would object (we should probably discuss that elsewhere). And before anyone asks, the reason we created these redirects rather than linking directly to the Djinn pages (besides making it easier to build bestiaries) is because, when you encounter a Djinni in combat, you don't see that Djinni's name; You only see "(Element) Djinni", so we designed the bestiaries to reflect that. The World's Hungriest Paperweight (talk) 15:41, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
Hmm. The software of the site must have progressed a lot since when I had made those equipment redirects years ago, back when this was on Wikia. Clearly, at the time those redirects were made there was a situation going on that made the redirects to item pages necessary and helpful. Probably the search bar didn't display full names for whatever you partially typed in (this would have forced readers to search for things more "blindly", in which if there wasn't a lot of redirects, they might have had a hard time finding the Witch's Wand if they didn't put in the apostrophe or choose the right word out of rod/wand/staff). Or possibly the search bar didn't display every redirect name when you typed in a partial name to get the full one displayed, making their presence harmless and non-cluttering to the readers even though they wouldn't have needed those redirects very much in that case. But now, I see it's pretty clearly a bad thing to have the search bar read three separate variations on "Witch's Wand", which having these redirects causes, so for that reason if nothing else it sounds like a good idea to have those redirects deleted. As for redirects like "Venus Djinni (Iron)", clearly these were obsoleted when the combined Djinni enemy line pages were finally established, so it's a good idea to delete those too and take them out of the search bar as well. Erik the Appreciator (talk) 23:00, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
Sounds reasonable to me. Having Auto-Complete Suggestions is a great feature of modern MediaWiki. I definitely can agree that the software has advanced... I just found that lowercase redirects are unnecessary. The wiki search engine will correct it for you if there is not a page that uses the lowercase version, and they don't show up in the search bar. *deletes "Sol blade"* ~ dkpat (talk) 23:46, 4 October 2012 (CDT)
It appears the majority of the redirects I have marked have not been deleted. You can find a list of them here. --Secreteer (talk) 06:39, 7 October 2012 (CDT)
Sorry, I've been behind this weekend. Some of them are from before this discussion was finished, so I was waiting for things to finish before proceeding. ~ dkpat (talk) 13:46, 7 October 2012 (CDT)

You did not cut down on the spam[edit source]

Just look at the number of spam accounts being created. You might want to try putting an account number limit so an e-mail account can only have a limited number of accounts towards it (5 is a good maximum). --Secreteer (talk) 06:19, 19 October 2012 (CDT)

It did work, for two days. I've now switched to another Captcha, (Recaptcha is dumb and has been hacked for years) There might be a problem with this new captcha of not letting people pass, but I can't say for sure yet. and umm... an email should not be allowed to be associated with more than one account at all. ~ dkpat (talk) 09:57, 19 October 2012 (CDT)

Account Creation and Wiki activity[edit source]

Noticed a couple things. First, account creation appears to be disabled again, and I've got someone who wants to contribute over on the reddit who finds themselves unable to do so. Second, I've noticed we've no recent changes in a month, and yet there's a lot of information that needs to be redone (the Elements page comes to mind, with all its fanon conjecture). What's going on? WitchRolina (talk) 10:53, 21 September 2017 (CDT)

My personal inactivity has primarily been due to the utter lack of Golden Sun-related happenings since Dark Dawn, which left me more-or-less feeling that it's purely voluntary busywork to have every single page be top-quality at this point. As I figure that the brunt of the site's pages of relevance like the Djinn are as good as most wikis, it would basically be up to others to point out pages like Elements to get me to notice them and think about cleaning them up.
Now, the complete inability for anyone new to register at this point in time is a holdover from how, many months ago, there were spam bots mass-creating spam accounts and mass-spamming pages *even with anti-spam measures and captchas in place*. Maybe dkpat should temporarily lift that to see how quickly the spambots come again, but otherwise I'll leave the matter of how he should handle new non-bot user registrations to him. Erik the Appreciator (talk) 14:46, 21 September 2017 (CDT)
Same goes for me. I feel like Golden Sun has pretty much died and thus there isn't a whole lot of purpose in working on the wiki. We are in a mostly complete state in terms of knowledge, so I don't think there is much work to be done other than improvements to how we present the information, and we don't have much of an audience that we would be improving for. I did re-enable user registration earlier today, so the Reddit people should have no problems creating an account now. If they do, just let me know and I'll try to help them out! :) ~ dkpat (talk) 17:05, 21 September 2017 (CDT)

Spam came back. I made a change to prevent new users from creating pages (for 7 days), that should help us out a little bit at least. ~ dkpat (talk) 18:34, 23 October 2017 (CDT)

So The spam account creation is really bad, but they aren't making any edits at least... (maybe because they can't) I thought everyone might be interested in seeing these stats from Google about our recaptcha though. They are failing more often than succeeding, and that is quite a bit. 60 failures on Jan 3rd.

Fandom namespace?[edit source]

All the Project Iris-related pages are a bit of a problem because they're currently located on the main space. This makes them visible in Special:AllPages alongside the main content articles and causes them to potentially be brought up when the Random Page link is clicked in the navigation. Can a Fandom namespace be defined so that they and other fandom-related pages such as fansites can continue to be preserved on the wiki without them being considered official content? SmashWiki has namespaces for "Smasher" and "Team", after all. Thanks. Erik the Appreciator (talk) 23:40, 21 September 2018 (CDT)

Sure! I'll try to add that in today. :) Also, heads up that I'm preparing to update the wiki to the latest version, and along with that, I'll probably work on the Mobile theme, and add the VisualEditor extension (as seen on Wikipedia) ~ dkpat (talk) 11:16, 22 September 2018 (CDT)
Also, Let me know if there are any other improvements you'd like to look into! I'm slightly considering revamping the skin already. ~ dkpat (talk) 14:28, 22 September 2018 (CDT)