Talk:Eclipse Tower

shouldn't this be Eclipse Tower (ie: "Eclipse Tower (originally known as Luna Tower)"), since that's what its encyclopedia entry is? Slax 21:05, 6 December 2010 (CST)
 * This should be called Eclipse Tower because it's called "Luna Tower" at first, but soon you hear characters say that "Eclipse Tower" is the tower's "original name". Erik the Appreciator 23:01, 18 December 2010 (CST)
 * really? I was under the impression it was called luna tower originally but had its name changed after the first Grave Eclipse (cuz... u'no, that makes sense, why would they change it from eclipse after it did exactly that?) though I could easily be getting the two the wrong way around, since I haven't gone back and replayed the game (and probably wont). Either way, if anyone can quote Kraden and Alex's conversation at the start of the eclipse, that states which one is the original and which one is the "new" name. Slax 00:27, 19 December 2010 (CST)
 * The dialogue I would have used as my evidence is different, though: even though the automated voice in the tower as its activating says "all personnel evacuate Luna Tower immediately", when you're in Belinsk Castle freeing Hou Ju a short time later it's Volechek that says something along the lines of "Ah... So you know Luna Tower's original name." But you see, its original name of Eclipse Tower is what the characters start referring to it as after the Grave Eclipse happens, like you say. Basically, it goes like this: long ago it was once called the Eclipse Tower by the ancients, but when they sealed it away it was given the alternative Luna Tower name. Once it caused the Grave Eclipse, the characters call it by its original Eclipse Tower name once again. Erik the Appreciator 01:39, 19 December 2010 (CST)
 * Just to confirm, since I note Erik just recently played through this section in his quote collection, it was originally called Eclipse Tower, then renamed Luna, then renamed back to Eclipse tower? Slax 00:58, 13 January 2011 (CST)

It was originally named Eclipse, was renamed Luna sometime before its being permanently sealed, was referred to as Eclipse by Kraden, which it continued to be called until the endgame sequence, where I seem to remember dialogue which states that the Tower has been renamed Sol Tower by the people of Belinsk. Tzion 01:23, 13 January 2011 (CST)

Not Destroyed?
Based on the fact that the tower was referred to by some in the post game cutscenes as Sol Tower and on dialogue spoken prior to that point (that Apollo Lens could force the tower to shut down), I feel that the tower was still intact and was either deactivated or "reversed", releasing the light it had gathered. Tzion 15:31, 6 February 2011 (CST)
 * Right, meaning that it's not physically destroyed. However, the threat it entails is what's destroyed, which is what the text pretty much implies when it says that Apollo Lens is used to destroy Eclipse Tower. Erik the Appreciator 15:40, 6 February 2011 (CST)

Alex Rebelled?
Hmm... Is this really the case? It was heavily implied at the end that the Umbra Clan was actually rebelling against the Tuaparang, so it could easily be said that Alex, as Arcanus, was acting as a double agent, and thus twarting their rebellion. While it's obvious to pretty much everyone that given the fact that he's Alex, he obviously had his own motives for doing so... Assuming that the Tuaparang are going to be recurring, and that he very well may not be done using them, it could be that his opposition to the Umbra Clan was more to appease the Tuaparang themselves, as he could have easily disappeared beforehand so as to do... whatever he did when he disappeared. Given the strength of the party at the time, it could be argued that Alex knew that Matthew's party was capable of victory at the time, and that his actions only served to reveal the existence of the Dark Adepts, and to possibly show some form of opposition to appease any others loyal to the Tuaparang, furthering his role a 'chessmaster' type villain... 75.60.182.188 05:56, 22 March 2011 (CDT)