Talk:Move

Log pillars or stone pillars?
Just now there was a disagreement between me and the IP address 174.0.159.130 over whether the many natural vertical pillars that the Move Psynergy can push around in both GBA games (pictured to the right) count as wooden logs or pillars of stone. Up until now, I've always thought they were "clearly" logs, but the IP being pretty adamant that these are made of stone prompted me to bring up the graphics of the objects involved to compare them and determine which is which, and frankly, I'm quite surprised at the results.

To the left is the sprite of a log that can be rolled across the ground in Kolima Forest, which in the story was in the process of having its trees be cut down for logs and lumber before Tret's curse struck (leaving many logs lying around on the ground for Isaac to move around). Upon closer inspection, the pillar above does look as though it doesn't quite conform with the coloring and texture of this actual log's bark, and the log has clearly-visible rings that the top pillar doesn't have, making the top pillar look less "loggy" than I first thought.

This sprite here, incidentally, represents what is at least a naturally occurring stone pillar of a different sort; you hop across it in dungeons like Dehkan Plateau, but it crumbles under your feet. The way this clearly looks like gray stone (though why stone would crumble instantly is another question) in comparison to the standing pillar above was what led me to assume that the above pillar was a "log pillar", since I never saw the images of the top pillar and the log-on-the-ground sprite side-by-side until just now...

The IP address' argument points out that the pillar that Garet uses behind his house at Vale is referred to in-game by his sister Kay as his "training stone"; this is a valid point, and I thank the IP for bringing that up. (In addition, the top pillar's coloring rather closely matches the earthly walls it is right up against in Vale.) Up until now I thought Kay's line about it being a training stone may have been a mistranslation, since the Golden Sun games each have several known mistranslations and inconsistencies between language versions, but this closer inspection of the graphics seems to diminish that possibility.

The above evidence shows me that I actually was wrong about the top pillar being a log rather than brown earth, so I'd be willing to go through the entire site and replace all instances of "log pillars" with "earth pillars" to fix those mistakes. I also apologize to the IP and admit I made an honest mistake (one that's lasted five years, though >____<). Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 03:46, September 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * Glad I could help you realize this, though I do apologize for being kinda harsh about it.. Sorry.174.0.159.130 16:23, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe the Dehkan Plateau pillars collapse because they're a weaker kind of stone, or possibly because of the recent quake caused by the tidal wave and Indra.