User talk:Erik the Appreciator/Archive1

Erik's Request list
One reason I don't find myself doing as much work on here as I probably could is that I have a hard time deciding what I want to next. You can help here: if there's a specific article or two you want created/worked on, or a page or image that needs to be deleted, list it here and I'll most likely get the jolt of motivation necessary to do it. :) Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 22:03, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Images
I've got some pages that could use pics, too. Some already have pics, but I truly think they should have more (or better ones). We started this on my talk page, but I figured you'd notice it sooner if I put the list on your page. Of course, the main reason I'm asking this of you is because you're the only person I know of who knows how to do this kind of stuff.

Here they are:
 * Air's Rock
 * Alpine Crossing
 * Altin Peak
 * Altmiller Cave
 * Apojii Islands (overworld pic at least)
 * Blow Mace
 * Champa
 * Dehkan Plateau (still need an overworld pic)
 * All the individual Djinn articles could use pics, ideally two: one that shows where you find them (outside of battle) and one that shows their effect in action (like how each weapon has a pic for its Unleash). There may be other pics we should add (maybe on a Djinni by Djinni basis), but I can't think of any.
 * Gaia Rock
 * Gondowan Cliffs
 * Idejima
 * Juggle Psynergy series
 * Jupiter Lighthouse
 * Kalay Tunnel
 * Kandorean Temple (maybe pics of the dungeon or Master Poi?)
 * Lalivero
 * Lemuria
 * Lunpa Fortress
 * Madra
 * Magma Rock
 * Mercury Lighthouse
 * Mogall Forest
 * Poseidon
 * Prox
 * Its amazing how many "major" articles we've got that still don't have pics, huh?
 * Shrine of the Sea God (inside pics, maybe Riki and Tavi?)
 * The tidal wave
 * Treasure Isle
 * Tret (in-game pics would be nice)
 * Tret Tree
 * I think the Trident of Ankohl could use a pic of the Trident hovering above Obaba's forge, or perhaps with the walkway "revealed." Just an idea.
 * Vault Cave
 * Venus Lighthouse
 * Yampi Desert

I'll be sure to update the list as I find more articles that need pics. Oh, and I have nothing against other people adding to my list (please alphabetize to prevent repeats). The world&#39;s hungriest paperweight 17:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I edited your list above so that it only lists articles that have a lot of text to begin with. I can't stuff in a lot of images to pages that look like they've just been made, so I'll put these ones off until they have more text:


 * Alhafra
 * Babi Lighthouse
 * Hammet Palace
 * Kalay
 * Karagol Sea
 * Kolima
 * Kolima Forest
 * Lunpa (town)
 * Naribwe
 * Tolbi
 * Vale Cave

Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 22:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh, why didn't I think of that? Well, they're all location articles right now, so after you finish off the main list maybe you could add at least an overworld pic of these places? I'm okay with that much until they're expanded. The world&#39;s hungriest paperweight 00:52, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I marked a few off the list, but that does NOT mean that they're "done". It just means that they have enough pics until they're expanded. Once they are we'll probably have to un-mark them (and add them to the main list, of course). The world&#39;s hungriest paperweight 16:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Right, that was essentially me "softening up" the picture task by giving at least an overworld pic of all of them so I wouldn't have to do that later. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 17:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

A Golden Sun joke about an Elephant
The greasebag Mayor of Alhafra kept quarantined in the cave underneath his manor an elephant he illegally imported from the continent of Indra. Of course, he didn’t appreciate the costs of feeding it, but he knew that the citizens of Alhafra would revolt if he didn’t show that he wouldn’t let animals die of starvation. Not that he didn’t find the townspeople of Alhafra revolting enough anyway…

One day, he came up with a scheme to get more money from the Alhafrans’ pockets into his own without them complaining: He saw that his elephant was able to stand on two legs, with the other two not touching the ground. Once in a circus, he even saw an elephant stand in the air on one leg only, with the other three legs off the ground. So, he announced that he would offer a reward of 10,000 coins to anyone who could get the elephant into the air with all four legs above the ground, but anyone who came would have to pay 100 coins to try.

People came from far and near to attempt to win the cash reward, and they tried everything on the elephant from coaxing to hypnotism, but there was never a point in time where all four of the elephant’s legs were simultaneously not touching the ground. The Mayor, in the meantime, was ecstatic with all the dough he was raking in from everyone else’s stupidity.

Then one day a carriage stopped by Alhafra Manor, and out stepped the young Mayor of Madra, representing a city whose boat the Mayor of Alhafra tried to steal from months beforehand. The young mayor asked, “Is it true that you’ll pay me 10,000 coins if I can get all four of your elephant’s legs off the ground for any duration of time?” The obese mayor replied, “Yes, but you’ll have to pay 100 coins to try.” So the young mayor handed him the money, went back to the carriage, and got out a Wooden Stick. Then he went back to the elephant and looked it in the eye. Then he went behind the elephant, swung as hard as he could, and hit the elephant in a certain sensitive area in between the legs. The elephant flew into the air with a shriek.

After the young mayor collected his money, the fat mayor was livid and humiliated. Not only had he been beaten at his own game by his hated rival, but he had only made 8000 coins, so he actually lost 2000 coins from his scheme.

But then, another scheme occurred to him: People know that elephants can move their heads up and down, but the animals never move their heads from side to side like you would expect from a horse. So, he made another announcement: He would offer a reward of 10,000 coins to anyone who could get the elephant to move its head from left to right, but anyone who came would have to pay 100 coins to try. People came from far and near to attempt to win the cash reward, but of course, none were succeeding, and the Mayor amassed up to 7000 coins.

Then one day, a familiar carriage stopped by Alhafra Manor, and out stepped the young mayor from Madra, who asked, “Is it true that you’ll pay me 10,000 coins if I can get your elephant to move its head from left to right without breaking its neck or anything like that?” The fat mayor replied, “Yes, but you’ll have to pay 100 coins to try.” So the young mayor handed him the money, went back to the carriage, and got out his Wooden Stick. Then he went back to the elephant and asked, “Hello there. Remember me?” The elephant anxiously nodded to say yes. “Would you like me to do it again?”

The elephant shook its head to say no.

Templates
Nice job on Template:Summon, especially with the rounded corners (which I have no idea how to make). One thing I did notice is that you don't necessarily have to add in the Template: namespace when adding the template to pages (ie.  ). Just   will work fine. And anyway, it's one less template to do! 05:57, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, I myself am not all that happy with the way it turned out; it's just a very general idea of the links. I envision it to be much more of a professionally structured template; I don't even know how to center the dang thing on these pages (it's currently on the left end of each page). I was also trying to not get the whole template box that color; it was supposed to be just the summon sequences title was supposed to have that color in its background Look in the edit history of the template and you'll see that I'm hopeful that you'll restructure it into something prettier; once that's done I'll be able to make similar templates for the characters, locations, classes, psynergies, and maybe the monsters. By the way, the tables on all the class series pages look great, but do you think they could look even better if they were all centered too? And thanks for the syntax advice. :) Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 18:22, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I've edited it a bit. It's lost the rounded edges, but I've made it so just the title bar has the background color, it should be centered in the page now, and a few other things.  I should also note that it's entirely possible to have the template automatically add the page to Category:Summons, though it's a moot point right now. ^_^
 * As for centering the stat tables, I'm not entirely sure about a.) whether it'd look that good, and b.) whether with the way they're currently being used if it's even possible (I'm using two different templates per table--take a look at the page source for how).
 * First of all, the previous version never had any rounded edges on my browser; it seems that it occured to your browser only, so most other viewers would have seen square edges anyway. Now, perhaps the stat tables don't actually need any centering business. It's just the templates I plan to make for the other subjects that need to be centered, and they'll likely have that category added to them for the new articles in those categories. I'm going to continue tinkering with the template until a most attractive version can be achieved. Thanks for the effort on your part to improve it, though. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 20:24, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Images from Wikipedia & Ultima Equation
There are Public Domain pictures I can add from Wikipedia for the cultural allusions of any topic that has one. They can be larger than the thread themselves, however, so I want your opinion on using them. I want to also show you my multiverse universal equation copied from my Wikipedia user page. It is at User:Eiyuu Kou. Tell me what you think...I made it myself and is very logical. Future chapters would even explain that alternate universes like the one on Golden Sun could even exist! --Eiyuu Kou 21:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Public domain images are always fine, I'm sure, but I can never be positive about the technicalities of imaging and licensing, so you should get to know User:Hinoa, a real knowledgable syntax wizard IMO. But if the images are very large, they can always be sized down. As a Golden Sun resource, the cultural allusion images shouldn't be larger than the summon images on each page anyway, and the extra images can still easily serve their purpose even if they are dramatically sized down. As for your heavily involved thoughts on alternate universes and mathematics, well! I don't think that's really something your typical GS fan would read on sight (Rellin seems to be a case in point ^_^). My suggestion is to keep it posted on your user page, or maybe a subpage, as you develop it and await input from the several other users on this site during the process. Lastly, though I'm not high-ranking at all, I emphatically welcome you aboard the site! Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 22:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:Boss
I finished it. If you want you or anybody else can improve it with my permission or you could make even more boss articles for me to add. --Eiyuu Kou 19:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Not to worry. I seem to work best with monsters because I have all the necessary resources, so I'm just content with filling the monsters and bosses up. I revised the by game instead of element because there seems to be many monsters that apply to more than one element, so having it by game is clearer and has less duplicate links. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 19:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Psynergy
Hey, thanks! I've been trying to find a list for a while now; guess my search is up, huh? --Rellin 21:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

A little treat for the disappointed...
On Wikipedia, I tell a funny but true story at my Keepers subpage about how in April 2006 the administrator A Man In Black got onto the bad side of a disgruntled Poke-fan user and vandal, who dumped this hilarious love letter onto Black's talk page. In light of the recent omni-hoax of a GSDS at E3, I thought I'd provide some levity by modifying Emstu10's love letter to address the perpetrator of the hoax, who may have been secretly influenced by Alex for all we know. Enjoy:

Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 19:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC)


 * This is as real as the ejaculation now spreading down my thigh at this news.


 * Best news of E3 so far..

Sorry, but I have to give that guy points on the gross-out front for this one. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 18:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I have only one thing to say about that last comment: O_o The world&#39;s hungriest paperweight 18:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

And I feel very heartily welcomed indeed
I actually use the same emulator as you for GS, VisualBoy, good stuff. Revoranii 15:44, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Great! I figure PNG file format is the best. I also think it's always a good idea to have the summaries on the image pages being things like what I have on the Excalibur images, sounding technical makes the images seem more "official". Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 20:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey, thanks for all your work! I feel the images are just right now (you were right, I did make them too large). You think you could start working on Golden Sun: The Lost Age now? Although its not really horrible, it is still quite an embarrassment since it is the game that holds 50% of the series current content. If not, I would be happy to get some ideas from the Wikipedia article. Thanks. --24.6.103.162 16:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Er, wasn't the problem the images being too large at first and you making them too small? :P Anyway... I dunno if I'd want to spend much time on the main pages for the games themselves, because in general readers familiar with GS already would be more interested in the more specific articles and information, which is the stuff I'm used to editing, like equipment lists. Granted, I did write most of the content on Wikipedia's Golden Sun: The Lost Age article, and since Wikipedia and wikia wikis like this share the same license there's nothing illegal about doing a straight copy-paste of that entire article onto here. You might as well take some of the Wikipedia content and put it onto the GS:TLA wikia page here to start off with. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 19:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Elemental Guardians
I'd just like to say that I love what you've done with the pages for the elemental guardian superbosses thus far. They're just so full of detail and information. It's very, very impressive. Can't wait to see what you do with the Star Magician page!

--Omegagouki 20:08, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks! *tips hat* And I put up Star Magician now... Looking at the page, you can probably tell I had a dilemma on whether to put the Balls in the Star Magician page or their own Ball monster line article; I ended up listing the Balls as parts of Star Magician's arsenal. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 07:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice! Now all of them have awesome, informative, well-written pages. Very good work.
 * --Omegagouki 06:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

User page fuss
Hey thanks for that :), don't apologise, you were doing exactly what needed to be done. And yeah, I knew you guys were the main users, but I wasn't sure whether Dracobolt was also active or not. Thanks for the move, at any rate. Tomorrow i'll have some free time (it's Wednesday arfternoon where I am) i'll have some free time, and I may be able to get some nice images for you, using my shiny emulator (uh, if my save files didn't get wipes when my computer crashed a while back). Either way i'll see what I can do. All the best. 06:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!
I see you're a sysop now! So, um, CONGRATULATIONS...or something like that... I don't know whether I should be suprised that it finally happened or that it took this long to happen. Just remember, "with great responsibilities come great power." Wait, that doesn't sound right... The world&#39;s hungriest paperweight 02:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Talk Page Header
A while back I made a sandbox and threw together a welcome thingy. But I'm getting a little tired of the "Copy and Paste" drudge. Think you could turn it into one of those template things? HP helped me and said I should ask you before he went away. I'm thinking something like the thing underneath this sentence. Check my sandbox to see the welcome message. User:Zabbeth/Sandbox Zabbeth 21:25, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course, it wouldn't be hard. I think I'll just change the name to "welcome" though. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 22:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Nice job and thank you. Zabbeth 16:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

A Few Questions
1) Do you like Metroid?

2) Do you take your own pics for the pics on this site?

3) If yes to both of those, do you want to help with some pics at wikitroid? Just wondering. If not then that's okay, just thought I would ask.Zabbeth 17:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes to 1 nd 2, but I'm not planning on inserting material into any wiki other than GSU and SmashWiki. The most you should expect me to do is to put images on Metroid-related pages on SmashWiki. ;) Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 17:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanks anyways.Zabbeth 18:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Merging
First of all I'd like to say thanks for the help on the Fansite merger. But while was going through I noticed that there is no Merger Template. You know, the ones that would say "It has been suggested that (this page) be merged with (that page)." I figure it should have Saturos & Menardi pics on it, you kow like the Kraden pic on the stub template. Get it? Merge...Fuse? Anyways what do you think? Could you make one?Zabbeth 20:01, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * HAH! That's really clever. I guess I'll make one... Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 22:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so I made a very visually basic thing here... The syntax:

Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 22:22, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Monster Skills & Other Abilities
I'd feel kinda bad if I left you waiting until the next release of the Editor just to see the statistics for Monster Skills, and that. So I dumped all the data, and threw it up on my sandbox. Everything is there from psynergy abilities, to monster skills, summons, unleashes, and even item effects. Such a huge list isn't exactly the ideal way to present the data, I'd suggest using your browsers search function (Most likely Ctrl+F, in case you didn't already know) Atrius 07:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * HOLY SHIZNIT - I hope THAT didn't take you a huge amount of time to somehow arrange all that into wiki-format yourself. =O Was that something you auto-generated onto a text document with a programming language? However you did it, that's really incredible. You didn't even need to put it in tables and include icons and all that...
 * You know, in the same way we have subpages to the monster line pages that are about raw data in table-ized format, your tables in your sandbox might actually be valid to put in subpages for the Psynergy series pages and for the Monster Skills list whenever relevant. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 08:52, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking through the list, I figured out what some stats mean, such as how a "multiplier" attack with a power-rating of 18 means that it takes the monster's attack rating and strikes with 1.8 times the amount of attack power. However, I'm led to believe there might be missing data on the summon spells; don't they all lower the targets' HP by percentages of their max HP? Why does Ulysses seem to be the only one who has that "Lower HP by 12%" effect? If that's a category of data you didn't include in your data dump, there might be other attacks such as Cruel Ruin (which is counted as a "Summon") that have percentage-based effects that might be left out, so be sure to be on the lookout. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 09:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I programmed something to automatically save it all, and format it for me. It didn't really take any time at all.  For the issue with summons, I forgot to mention that the attack's type determines the equation used for calculating the damage.  The equation for Summons is:
 * Base Damage = Summon Base + [Target's Max HP * 3 * Djinn Used / 100]
 * You can find a lot of good information on the battle mechanics, and the rest of those equations in the following guide:
 * http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/561356/22880
 * Atrius 14:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well okay, that equation makes sense for the summons the player lets loose with his Djinn. But does that mean the "Summon"-type Cruel Ruin does none of that extra damage because of the lack of Venus Djinn Doom Dragon has, instead just being a straight 11-range Venus base damage attack with a Venus power rating of 200? And that Outer Space is exactly the same as Cruel Ruin, only Mars-element?
 * Another unclear thing: What's the story behind three differently-powered copies of attacks like Fire Breath (not counting the fourth "Fire Breath" that's the Psynergy of the Pierrot class of course), each one of the type "Base Damage (Diminishing)"? Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 18:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I might have to look into Cruel Ruin, and Outer Space. That would seem to be the case, but there could be data somewhere else that says otherwise.  It'd be interesting to see if the game behaves as though the enemies are using Djinn for it.
 * I believe different enemies use different versions of Fire Breath, and those other duplicated abilities depending on how powerful they're supposed to be. The only way to really check is to use the editor to see exactly which ability index they're using, it would match the number at the top left of the ability tables on my sandbox.  As for "(Diminishing)" that has to do with how much damage enemies toward the outer range of the attack are dealt, there's information about that in the guide I linked to in my last reply. Atrius 20:14, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I now know it as a fact that the different copies of the same Breath attacks are differently powered versions for different enemies, such as the weak Sonic Wave being for Bats and the stronger Sonic Wave being for Ant Lions. Now, I found the FAQ's info about diminishing ratios, and now I see that the Sonic Wave attacks themselves are among the (Diminishing)-classified attacks, even though they only have ranges of 1. Apparently that means that it makes no difference if a 1-range Base Damage attack has the (Diminishing) part or not, since it's always 100% damage at its core. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 20:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Just noticed what you did with the revamp to the Gressil monster line. NICE.  So is that going to be the new standard for monster lines? RoleOfDATS 09:33, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Only the Gressil monster line? :P By this point I've done the 27 monster lines that come before it alphabetically, as well as Hobgoblin and Mini-Goblin to make a total of 30 down. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 17:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It was the most recent one at the time, and real life has been bothering me quite a bit lately. I wish it'd just go away... Now if only we had someone like you at the Rockman Wiki...  This place puts it to shame, big time. ^-^ RoleOfDATS 03:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

If I edit the Main-Page it might blow up.
I learned how to make polls! Now I want to put one on the Main-Page. But there is a HUGE chance I will screw everything up. You mind posting it for me? It's not hard when you get the jist of it. I figure we could do this once a month or something. Just hit the Edit button and copy and paste like I do. Here it is.

Question Answer 1 Answer 2 And so on

The question will be, "Who would win in a fight?" The answers would be 1.Issac 2.Felix or 3. Eoleo rockin' the Wheat Sword. Well you could probably come up with something better then that, but I always like the polls with two or three real answers and one rediculous answer. What do you think?Zabbeth 02:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a really interesting concept, especially since the syntax is so simple. It might even work, too. The thing I'm iffy about is that the Main Page, as it is, looks and feels perfectly functional as four elemental "boxes", and I'm not sure if that should be put on the main page to potentially clutter it up. (BTW I voted on your Sandbox poll earlier in the day ;) ) Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 02:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I see your point. A poll would kind of jumble it up a bit. I'll tell you what I'm going to do then. Starting in February I'm going to make a Poll of the Month page, don't worry it's not going to an actual page though, probably more of another sandbox like page. Anyways, when it's complete maybe you could put something in the "News" srection of the mainpage. Something like, "Come vote on our new poll page", or something like that. Sound good?Zabbeth 14:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll predict that where it should be put in is in Main Page/Polls, a subpage of the Main Page. To prevent vandals from screwing the syntax up on purpose instead of just voting, that page should be Protected right away. Then each time the poll is replaced, the old poll should be put in Main Page/Polls/Poll Archive or something like that. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 18:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good.Zabbeth 13:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Er, but if there'd be a discussion on the page with the poll on it, then protecting it wouldn't work because no one could add to the discussion. We'll just have to assume vandals won't go out of their way to mess the page up while it's unprotected... Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 18:51, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I put your poll on the template "Poll Jan 09" and linked it to the poll page so that while the poll is protected from vandalism, anyone can edit the discussion. And next month you can make Template:Poll Feb 09 and put it on the main poll page, then I'd protect the febuary poll template. Also, I linked it from the News bar on the main page. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 19:10, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

- u rock and i hope there is a gs3 (proby on ds)--Ajax752 12:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, but I really should warn you about some of the edits you've made so far. Any administrator would consider your edit to User:Kyarorain actual vandalism, since that's someone else's userpage you're changing without their consent. That, along with the rather nonconstructive edit you made to the main page (We already have the Recent Full Articles box on the page for newly created full articles), would have gotten you an official warning from an admin if this were any other wiki. And as for your Secret Room page, which I had to delete, it's possible that you weren't aware that each of the six Debug Rooms are going to have their own pages written eventually, and that you probably weren't aware that writing "I think so but where is it and how do you get to it?" does not count as encyclopedia-style content that's the only type of content allowed on the pages... But still, that's not a good sign.


 * If you want to be a valued editor here, you should really look at how all of the pages on this wiki are written, such as how they are worded and how much they're proofread, as well as how they're only full of reliable info. And then, do your best to try to make edits in the same style as those pages, putting in practical information where practical information is missing. If that sounds hard and time-consuming, well it pretty much is; it takes editors like me and the others quite a focused effort to produce paragraphs of content like what's on the character and monster pages, so maybe that sort of optimum editing's not for you. Maybe you're only interested in discussing GS like you're on a forum; in that case, the Forums here are a great place to go, but you should make sure that the Forums and each page's talk page are the only places on the wiki that you make forum-style edits on, instead of the actual articles that deserve encyclopedia-style edits. Erik Jensen (Appreciate me here!) 19:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)