Talk:Spark Shuriken

Damage Calculation
Now, I'm normally pretty good with maths, but I'm having difficulty finding a damage formula that fits this. I tested the attack against Grand Chimeras in Otka IslandI've tried EPA, both with a set increase and a multiplier, and a straight Power-based attack. My closest has been an EPA with a multiplier of around 0.75 for three of my characters, but following that vein, the sums give my Sveta a multiplier of 0.62. I've doubled checked all my work, and I get the same numbers. For those who want to triple check, my Matthew has an attack of 780 and a Jupiter Power of 77, Tyrell has 669 attack and 78 Jupiter Power, Sveta has 663 attack and 149 Jupiter Power, and Amiti has 616 attack and 76 Jupiter Power. For a Power offensive, Matthew gets ~204, Tyrell ~158, Sveta ~110, and Amiti ~138. For an EPA with a set increase, the set increase I get for Matthew is ~-62, Tyrell ~-50, Sveta ~-74, and Amiti ~-43. I've already said what I got for a multiplier based EPA. Help anyone? Phimi (talk) 14:54, 15 October 2012 (CDT)

Forgot to mention, Matthew did 181 damage, Tyrell 141 damage, Sveta 137, Amiti 122. Phimi (talk) 14:59, 15 October 2012 (CDT)


 * That's certainly strange - items tend to ignore an adept's elemental power and stats. Your results seem to imply that it doesn't... double checking - this was all on the exact same type of monster, right? Rolina (talk) 21:07, 15 October 2012 (CDT)
 * Yes, all against a Grand Chimera. Since it says both in the game's text and here that it deals Jupiter damage, I considered it essential to include the elemental modifier term. I've just checked my own calculations as just ordinary non-elemental attacks, and it's as you said, ignoring anything to do with elemental power, instead just an ordinary attack multiplied by 0.7 with a chance to stun, so that should probably get mentioned. Phimi (talk) 14:43, 16 October 2012 (CDT)